Kaitlyn ([info]kaitlyn142) wrote in [info]lab_gripes,
So, world-wide Acetonitrile shortage. I got to spend today calling every vendor I could think of to see if anyone could help my thirsty HPLC. Some places are so far behind they won't even sell it on backorder.

*sigh*

Anyone know how that happened? One sales rep told me a couple of stories, but she had no idea how true they were.

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[info]l6kookazy

November 7 2008, 03:45:40 UTC 3 years ago

I was told Fisher had a fire.

[info]kaitlyn142

November 7 2008, 14:50:40 UTC 3 years ago

Really? Fisher was the one that told me the crazy stories. One was about China stopping production for the Olympics, and the other involved the bust of the housing market. Something to do with putting in carpeting.

Anonymous

3 years ago

[info]victor1999

3 years ago

[info]acadecian

November 7 2008, 05:38:08 UTC 3 years ago

Did you try Transgenomic?

[info]kaitlyn142

November 7 2008, 14:51:02 UTC 3 years ago

*makes note to try them today*

[info]acadecian

3 years ago

[info]trenchkamen

November 7 2008, 08:26:53 UTC 3 years ago

We have a jug we're not using. Nobody's used the HPLC in a while.

[info]invaderxan

November 7 2008, 12:21:57 UTC 3 years ago

Worldwide acetonitrile shortage?
How bizarre... That's a collection of words I'd never expected to see together in the same sentence!

[info]kaitlyn142

November 7 2008, 14:52:16 UTC 3 years ago

Tell me about it. When my supervisor told me, I just kind of stared at her in confusion. Of course, we were out of methanol for a while, too!

[info]invaderxan

3 years ago

[info]aki

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[info]victor1999

3 years ago

[info]spin1978

November 7 2008, 14:38:30 UTC 3 years ago

Dr. Evil has obviously struck again.

Honestly, that sounds really strange, I hadn't heard of it until now. I've heard of isotopic compounds being scarce on occasion, but not something like acetonitrile.

[info]kevisannasdad

November 7 2008, 15:09:23 UTC 3 years ago

So if this is true, whatever acetonitrile you have is worth lots. But if it is false and the rumor spreads, then buying up a large amount might make it seem like it is true. And when the sense builds that it is true, you could resell as I am sure the commodities exchange for acetonitrile will go through the roof.

[info]victor1999

January 14 2009, 19:01:46 UTC 3 years ago

Aceto

Don't buy a large amount.
We in the industry are trying to come up with more.
The price ought to come down to normal.
We don't want labs to have to switch from aceto.
Victor

[info]fireinlab

November 7 2008, 18:24:51 UTC 3 years ago

It's totally true - the chem dept here is struggling. I'm SO happy my lab stockpiled about 4 bottles. We were sent an email a few months back apologizing for it. Even backorder stuff isn't shipping till January from what I've heard.

I hear it's because the main source of acetonitrile is as a byproduct from some industrial reaction that for whatever reason there was a decrease in demand for.

[info]mcjelavich

November 17 2008, 14:25:42 UTC 3 years ago

One of the organometallic labs across the hall from me just go 12 4-gallon bottles of acetonitrile. I don't know where but I'm pretty sure the shortage must be over.

Anonymous

December 31 2008, 17:52:05 UTC 3 years ago

Acetonitrile

We need Acetonitrile, Cas No.: 75-05-8 in HPLC-grade, it could be Chromasolv, Omnisolv, Pestisolv or similar.
It is important that it is for laboratory use, for HPLC (High Performance Liquid Chromatography) and for GC (Gas Chromatography).
30 bottles of 2½ liter

Do you have any to sell us? Do you know where we can buy this from?

Thank you,
Paula Young

[info]victor1999

3 years ago

Anonymous

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[info]victor1999

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Anonymous

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Anonymous

November 19 2008, 22:02:38 UTC 3 years ago

Running Scared.

I work in a very large lab and everyone is running scared. Our LC-MS/MS and HPLC systems consume a lot of Acetontrile as mobile phase. We may have to shut down clinical testing for many tests if we run out of the chemical. On 11/17/08 Fisher posted http://www.fisher.co.uk/Acetonitrile.pdf that says they are rationing their supply.

[info]victor1999

January 14 2009, 19:06:29 UTC 3 years ago

Re: Running Scared.

Were you able to get enough aceto for your project?
Victor
rinconv@optonline.net

Anonymous

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Anonymous

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[info]thatshanekid

November 21 2008, 04:42:42 UTC 3 years ago

haven't posted on here in forever, but came across this on google.

fyi - the shortage is far from over. i work for a company that distributes acn. Fisher and VWR are on allocation basis, and B&J, MBI, and EMD have all declared force majeure. Sigma Aldrich is rumored to have tripled their list price, but hasn't gone to allocation.

factors: fisher did not have a fire, but a major plant did. the olympics in china halted production. the slow down of the auto industry (as ACN is a byproduct of making car bumpers). hurricane season shut down a plant on the gulf coast. and in december a leading supplier of the raw material used to make ACN will shut down for scheduled maintenance (about 3 weeks) - so things will get worse before they get any better. perfect storm for a shortage.

consider me a reliable source...

Anonymous

December 8 2008, 13:22:40 UTC 3 years ago

ACN Alocation

Hi,

ACN allocation is in my google alerts... that's because I live and breath this everyday in industry... That's how I found you. Yes, the olympics and the hurricanes all contributed, but what killing us now is the economy. ACN is a byproduct of Acrylonitrile, which is used to make carpets, carbumpers, and luggage. Since the economy has slowed down (I call it the bumper slump), no one is making Acrylonitrile, so we are experiencing a feedstock issue.

Alot of folks ask "Why can't you just make ACN?" Well, the only way to synthesis it is quite expensive using petro based products... And when you make it the old fashioned way via Acrylonitrile, only 2% of the goo is ACN... So you have to make a bunch of Acrylonitrile to get a little ACN.

Right now, suppliers like Fisher,Sigma, EMD, MBI, etc.. are buying from boutique suppliers, and the boutique suppliers are gouging. And to add insult to injury , not only is it 4x more expensive, but it's also dirtier... So suppliers have to work harder to clean it up.

Also keep in mind that a lot of Pharma manufacturing has moved to Asia... That means a lot of ACN is staying in Asia instead of being shipped to the US.

This is going to be ugly for a while. At the very least until July. My best advice to you is to change your HPLC method...

Anonymous

December 3 2008, 19:47:43 UTC 3 years ago

ACN Shortage

I get all my ACN from a company called american bioanalytical.

check them out...

http://www.americanbio.com/products.asp?id=AB00120

Anonymous

December 5 2008, 06:00:20 UTC 3 years ago

Re: ACN Shortage

Ladies and gents, just a little feedback for all of you. I work for a supplier (VWR) and the shortage is due to a couple factors. One being the previously mentioned story regarding China's ceased production during the Olympics (for air quality improvements) and the other being the recent hurricane (Ike) that hit a major facility in the Texas gulf coast area. Hope that helps explain it. All the major suppliers are on allocation right now and the outlook for this problem extends well into the first quarter of 2009. Sorry for the bad news but hopefully knowing some details will help each of you plan accordingly.

[info]toasteronfire

December 7 2008, 20:35:16 UTC 3 years ago

Our clinical labs run thousands of HPLC/MS/MS samples a day. We're trying to figure out how to ration ACN (lower volume, swap another solvent for the mobile phase, etc) and in the meantime stockpiling what we can (I heard we have a hood filled with bottles).

Another concern is that smaller labs may stop running their tests that use ACN and instead send all their samples to us. That's worrisome...

[info]kaitlyn142

December 7 2008, 22:39:52 UTC 3 years ago

Thankfully we only have one little HPLC and go through a bottle every other week or so. We actually found a supplier who will send us 1 case a month, so it's perfect.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

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Anonymous

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Anonymous

December 11 2008, 21:26:25 UTC 3 years ago

ACN shortage

China shut down production for the Olympics (got to keep up that global image), Hurrican Ike damaged a production plant in Texas and the economic slowdown has slowed the production of carpet (ACN is a by-product of the production of acrylic fibers).

Anonymous

December 17 2008, 16:25:03 UTC 3 years ago

Acetonitrile

I am organising a shipment of Acetonitrile into the UK. HPLC 99.99% Grade. Due early February. Please call Mick or Andy if you would like to buy some. 0115 9224278 07971 803404

Anonymous

December 31 2008, 17:57:27 UTC 3 years ago

Re: Acetonitrile

We need Acetonitrile, Cas No.: 75-05-8 in HPLC-grade, it could be Chromasolv, Omnisolv, Pestisolv or similar.
It is important that it is for laboratory use, for HPLC (High Performance Liquid Chromatography) and for GC (Gas Chromatography).
30 bottles of 2½ liter

How much? When can you ship?

Thank you,
Paula

Anonymous

3 years ago

Anonymous

3 years ago

[info]victor1999

3 years ago

Anonymous

3 years ago

Anonymous

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Anonymous

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Anonymous

December 23 2008, 14:39:47 UTC 3 years ago

acetonitrile

Shortage because Acetonitrile is a by product from Acrylonitrile which is not being used as much so production has halved causing acetonitrile shortage and ridiculous price rise.up to 20 fold price increase.Acetonitrile is difficult to replace in Pharma although companies are trying to find a replacement.How do I know all this?
I am in the business.

Anonymous

December 31 2008, 17:58:43 UTC 3 years ago

Re: acetonitrile

What do you have for a replacement?

Thank you,
Paula

[info]v_sea

January 7 2009, 21:01:29 UTC 3 years ago

Acetonitrile Synthesis

Anyone have a suggestion for a batch route to acetonitrile? I see several continuous methods on the web.

Anonymous

January 8 2009, 12:34:48 UTC 3 years ago

Why Not Recycle?

I was just wondering if anyone had thought of recycling there solvents. I've heard that you save around 70% and there was a product that was claiming to save up to 90% of solvent consumption. Here's a link:

http://www.labhut.com/products/solvent_recycling/index.php (http://www.labhut.com/products/solvent_recycling/index.php)

[info]victor1999

January 14 2009, 19:14:44 UTC 3 years ago

Re: Why Not Recycle?

There is lots of spent aceto.
However, bringing it up to ultrapure or HPLC grade is easier said than done.
If you blend all sources, then too complex to clean up well.
If only one source, not enough to run efficiently.
Recovered aceto is going to non-critical, forgiving end-uses.
Victor

Anonymous

January 14 2009, 19:44:55 UTC 3 years ago

Acetonitrile shortage due to china and slow down in fiber and car industry.
China stopped production due to olympics.
Acetonitrile is a by-product of acrylonitrile and used in acrylic fibres and ABS in cars.

Anonymous

January 22 2009, 16:58:48 UTC 3 years ago

Hopefully then it will be a short-lived shortage.....

Anonymous

January 22 2009, 23:36:36 UTC 3 years ago

Acetonitrile

go to Wikipedia. Curious enough, the current shortage of this solvent has been already issued there.
"Stories" are true, i work in the field.

Anonymous

February 12 2009, 16:41:36 UTC 3 years ago

have an acetonitrile source if anyone is interested

My firm is currently in the process of sourcing HPLC Grade Acetonitrile directly from a manufacturer in China. We are looking at getting a couple of 55-gallon drums from our internal use. If anyone is interested, we might be able to bump up our order to cover your demands.

It will take approx. 45 days to get it to the US by ocean since it is a hazardous substance after which we can bottle it in 4-lit units for shipment (or ship the whole drum to you).

You can forward your inquiries to me at acetonit09@gmail.com

Anonymous

February 26 2009, 20:19:54 UTC 3 years ago

Re: have an acetonitrile source if anyone is interested

contact Columbus Chemical industries.

Anonymous

March 4 2009, 21:06:08 UTC 3 years ago

Acetonitrile supply

We currently have a good supply of Tech grade, ACS Grade, and HPLC Grade Acetonitrile. If interested contact chris@eqxchem.com.

Anonymous

June 3 2010, 11:57:49 UTC 1 year ago

Re: Acetonitrile supply

Please let me know the process route adopted

[info]esp_chemicals

March 4 2009, 21:15:19 UTC 3 years ago

Acetonitrile

We have EMD AX0142-1 Acetonitrile, OmniSolv®, for HPLC Gradient Analysis, Spectrophotometry, Gas Chromatography 4L bottle.

Unlike the competition, our price is the same as it is in EMD Chemicals website.

You can reach us at 888-522-3472.

Phil

[info]azn329

March 19 2009, 03:51:48 UTC 3 years ago

replacement mobile phase

Our lab runs 8 pumps 24/7 at 1ml/min. So we consume a lot!
Since the shortage, we've switched to 40% methanol. The mobile phase prep is much easier and the retention time works out even better for us than ACN.

Anonymous

March 20 2009, 14:39:15 UTC 3 years ago

Acetonitrile Request

HELP!!! Can anybody tell me where or who has any acetonitrile for sale. You can contact me at mark.anderson@chemsolusa.com

Anonymous

April 8 2009, 15:32:57 UTC 3 years ago

Re: Acetonitrile Request

I have a supplier with a good price. If you still need, please send your spec and quantity to me at meiyuan88@yahoo.com

Anonymous

3 years ago

Anonymous

April 4 2009, 01:12:18 UTC 3 years ago

Acetonitrile HPLC

A little know secret is that Spectrum Chemical has plenty. When you call though, ask for the sales rep for your area because the customer service people won't tell you this.
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